Saturday, September 11, 2004

don tinsley" great stuff

Hey man, great stuff, I never knew who the WEBS were
but thought maybe they were some of the Roemans,
really liked People Sure Act Funny, it was in heavy
rotation for a while on WBAM in Montgomery, which also
played the K-Otics version of Double Shot a lot. I'm
from Montevallo, so I could get both Birmingham and
Montgomery am stations. Everybody Knows by the James
was a bit of a hit here in the Birmingham area.
Thanks for the cool site and research, Don Tinsley.

"Rodney Justo"
"robert register"
Re: CUBA , ALABAMA : Dedicated to Exposing the TRUTH about Rock 'N Roll
Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:24:12 -0700

I had a very short time in the world of academia which consisted of a mighty 6 weeks at St.Petersberg Junior College.
I was going to ba a music teacher.
Two things happened.First, I got sick for the second time with mononucleosis and missed a month of school and when I returned I looked up at my professop and realized that I was 17 years old and making more money than him.
I played drums and also timpani in the orchestra.
With me was a kid from Tarpon Springs named Bertie Higgins.He didn't read so well so I thought that he would have a hard time in school.
In fact there was a time when my car broke down, and we would hitchhike home together.
He showed up probably a year or so later as the drummer for Lanny and the impressions.
I remember once telling him that I thought that it was time that I start living on my own (B all at the wise old age of 17) and I had been looking at an apartment in a garage behind someones house.
When I told him the name of the owner of the house it turns out that it belonged to his aunt.....small world

Today while working with members of the Young Junior High School Baby Criminals Alumni Association and Auxilary on Dusy Street, I began to uncover information concerning Black-owned nightclubs along the so-called "CHITLIN' CIRCUIT". The YJHS Baby Criminal Alumni and Auxilary is especially interested in anything related to Doc Greenfield's Club Capri which I believe was located on North Alice Street in Dothan.
The other day I was working at a house on the 2600 block of 21st Street in Tuscaloosa and an old buddy of mine pointed out that the abandoned juke joint which adjoined our property and fronted on 26th Avenue was a favorite place for young white musicians to hang out, listen and take the stage back in the 60s. He mentioned that Court Pickett used to play there. These old clubs are just about gone so it's up to us to try to preserve the musical legacy they have left us.

Take a few moments some time and let me hear from ya.
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by Oscar J. Jordan III
This is a heavily summarized version of Jimi's Chitlin' Circuit years. Many details and juicy tid-bits are missing: The womanizing, the violence, illegitimate children, racism, and all the in-between stuff that gives you the full scope of a persons life. Then there's the meetings he had with Albert King, James Brown, Chuck Berry, and everyone at Chess records in Chicago including Muddy Waters. To sum up a portion of a person's life in detail in a series of highlights is impossible. It's those in between moments that make us who we are. Those things are missing here. If you want detail go to your book store and find "Electric Gypsy" by Harry Shapiro and Caesar Glebbeek. What I wanted to do was shed some light on the past of a great man and to look at some of the events in his life that led up to his fame and worldwide recognition. Jimi Hendrix's success was no fluke. He was there at the right time at the right place rubbing elbows with the music greats, while working diligently to find his own voice. Never stooping to merely copy, but to expand and build on the gifts of his predecessors.

From: "Rodney Justo"
To: "robert register"
Subject: Re: Examining The Sires of Dothan's Rock 'N Roll Pedigree
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004

By the way the Roemans were not called the Romans before joining up with Tommy Roe but were called the Roemans BECAUSE of their association with him.
They were called Lanny and the Impressions

Then,Rodney, you will be interested in the following:

Elbert Higgins was a drummer with the Romans in the early 1960s. They would play at the WLCY SUPER STAR SPECTACULARS. One night while backing Tommy Roe, he was so impressed with the Romans, he asked them to tour with him, and change their name to the Roemans. They did and the rest is history.
from an article by Dennis Dalcin entitled "THIS MUST BE THE PLACE! The Tampa Bay Scene In The '60s":
"The second most important Tampa Bay band in the mid-sixties, and the only one to visit England, was the Roemans. They started out as the Romans, but changed the spelling of their name after they hooked up with Tommy Roe (of Sheila fame) and his producer Felton Jarvis."

from an interview with Bob "Bo" Glover:
60s: Who formed Lanny & The Impressions?

BG: A cop in New Port Richie, Florida put the group together in November 1963. He passed away in 1998. His name was Alan Diggs.

60s: Who were the members of that band?

BG: Lanny Langford, lead singer; Bertie Higgins, drummer and vocals; Ronnie Swartzcopf, guitar and vocals; Joe Pappalardo, bass and vocals; and Bob (Bo) Glover, lead guitar and vocals. Joe was the first to leave the group due to the draft. Berry Oakley replaced him in '66, and later joined The Allman Brothers.

60s: Joe Pappalardo apparently came from a local Florida band named The Satins (and later The Pebbles). Do you recall this band? How did you find Pappalardo?

BG: Lanny, Bertie, Ronnie, and Joe had already been recruited by Alan Diggs when I joined them. I do not remeber those bands that Joe played in.

60s: Why did the band change names to The Romans?

BG: We signed with ABC Paramount and they (already) had a group named The Impressions. We changed the name to The Romans. Then, after a couple months in '64, they hooked us up with Tommy Roe so we just changed the spelling.

60s: Was Lanny upset at all about losing the "front man" name?

BG: No. Lanny was not upset. We did our own shows quite a bit and did not exclusively back Tommy.

60s: What type of gigs did The Romans originally land?

BG: Teen clubs mostly, but also National Guard Armories, and teen dances in the Midwest in what they called ballrooms.

and this next one even comes from our old buddy, Jeff Lemlich of Miami's Limestone Records:

There's no relation. The Dothan, Alabama band was still called the Webs at that time. When Bobby Goldsboro went solo, they replaced him with Rodney Justo, from the Clearwater, Florida band Rodney & The Mystics. These are the guys that went on the road with Orbison. Justo had a solo single on Sound Stage 7, pre-Candymen.

Re: THE ROEMANS... they probably have more dead members than any other Florida band! They were Lanny & The Impressions before they hooked up with Tommy Roe. Later they called themselves THE ROMANS. Berry Oakley of the Allman Bros. was a member for a time. Their drummer was Bertie Higgins, who had that crappy Jimmy Buffett influenced hit "Key Largo".
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Friday, September 10, 2004

The photo of the DAVE MILLER SET which appeared on their '68 EP, Hope

The Dave Miller Set [Spin EX 11530]
Hope / Havin' A Party // Why Why Why / Hard Hard Year

Their next single, appropriately entitled Hope, had a particularly interesting background. The original version came from the 1967 debut album by The Candymen, and it was co-written by Buddy Buie and Candymen lead guitarist John Rainey Adams[sic]. They started out in the '50s in Dothan, Alabama as members of The Webs, the group that launched the career of singer Bobby Goldsboro, a childhood friend of Buie's. When they backed Roy Orbison on a visit to Dothan he was so impressed that he hired them on the spot as his permanent band, and and Buie became his tour manager. Renamed The Candymen, they worked with Roy for seven years, touring the world, and Adkins played lead on many 'Big O' classics including Oh Pretty Woman. After they left Roy they cut two albums under their own name for ABC and Buie became a successful songwriter-producer, with credits including the Classics Four's Windy and Spooky, as well as hits for Billy Joe Royal and BJ Thomas. In the '70s he set up his own studio in Atlanta, where he put together the session band that became The Atlanta Rhythm Section.

Released in April 1968, Hope was a quantum leap in the band's studio work. Dave cites it as one of his favourite recordings, and its not hard to see why -- it's a psych-pop classic, a tremendously strong and hugely enjoyable record that brims with confidence and optimism. Dave's vocal is spot-on and the infectious backing, in a brisk march tempo, skips along with some great ensemble playing by the group. It's topped off by Pat's sparkling arrangement for horns, piccolos and strings (with contributions from Sven Libaek, who scored the horns and piccolos). The B-side is a swinging, good-time version of Sam Cooke's Havin' A Party, a perennial stage favourite that Dave often performed with The Byrds which he updated with the namechecks of Stone Free and Strange Brew. The single did quite well in Sydney, peaking at #27, largely thanks to Ward Austin of 2UW who liked the song and was instrumental in breaking it into the chart with regular airings on his afternoon shift.

From an article entitled Watching Bobby Grow by Jim Bickhart
The spring of Bobby's senior year in high school rolled around along about this time, and one day he found himself sitting in the school cafeteria eating lunch. Word had gotten around that he was doing some picking ( not many high school kids were doing too much picking those days, especially the all-star baseball players ), and the guys in the school's " biggest" rock and roll band asked Bobby to come jam with them one afternoon.
"Somewhere they got the idea I was pretty good," laughs Goldsboro. "I mean, I was trying to write some stuff and working out rhythm parts, but I was mainly good at figuring out the chords to songs right off. So I go over to where they were set up and watch their guitar player do Chet Atkins picking. He was sloppy, but it was recognizably ambitious, and I was real impressed.
"They were trying to work out some old Rick Nelson hit; something like 'Poor Little Fool'. It had a real straight progression, but they couldn't get the minor chord. So they asked me and I knew it right away. Played along with the record, and they were impressed. A couple of days later, I got a phone call from one of them, a deep-voiced kid named John Rainey. He asked me if I 'wanted to make $10 this weekend playin' at a teen dance.' their lead singer was going out of town and they needed an extra guitarist so Rainey could sing. I figured 'why not?' Playing guitar was a lot of fun and if someone would pay you to go someplace and do it, who was I to refuse? "
A rehearsal or two later, Bobby was ready. The band had him memorize a couple of Rick nelson's hits, including the aforementioned "Poor Little Fool," and told him he'd have to sing those at the gig. His attempts to beg off failed, and he went into his first job as a guitarist technically, if not mentally. prepared to make his singing debut as well.
"I kept stalling around," he says, "finding some other song to play every time Rainey asked me to sing one of my numbers. Finally, in the middle of the second set, we ran out of alternatives. So I moved my microphone over behind a pillar and hid while I sang. Right in the middle of the song, Poor Little Fool, some girl stuck her head around the post to see who was singing and nearly scared me into forgetting the rest of the song. That was my first public singing experience."
By summer, he was in this band, called the Webbs, fulltime, wearing his hair greased back, dressed in a sport coat and tie decorated with spider webs. They were just about the only truly competent band in the area of Dothan and it was paying off in terms of employment.
"When I went off to Auburn, I stayed with the band," explaines Goldsboro, "I'd borrow my brother's car or take a bus and go back to Dothan for weekend gigs. I was majoring in Business Administration and doing okay, but I was really beginning to think about music a lot. My second year, Rainey and the bass player came to Auburn too, we found a new drummer and became the hot band on campus.
"Being the campus rock and roll band was pretty good," he continues. "I wasn't the coolest guy around, my hair all slicked back and being so short and all, but all the fraternities were rushing me, inviting me to parties and being real friendly. I took everything I could get but never joined a one of them. I figured they thought they'd be getting a free band for all their parties and I wasn't buying that."
Bobby remembers one big weekend when adjacent frat houses threw competing parties, one hiring an equally renowned band from Florida State; these two bands dominated the college dance and party scene in the Southwest that year, and the overflow crowds at the two parties poured out into the street all night.
"Those parties were really wild, " he says, "everyone hot and sweaty, dancin' in that humidity, while we'd be up there in our outfits, cool as you please, playing away. Our big number was 'Walk Don't Run'; we had the Ventures down cold."
Between the weekend gigs at school and the vacation dates around the South, the Webbs were beginning to build up a widespread reputation. Their travels took them from Florida all the way to Missouri, with each musician earning up to $100 a night.

By the end of Bobby's second year in college, an old high school friend named Bubby Buie had become more or less the manager of the Webbs. Buddy, now a prominent producer and writer in Nashville, had notions of becoming an enterpreneur as well, so he began to book concerts. The Webbs, of course, always managed to be on the bill.
"He was trying to get Conway Twitty for four gigs in different cities," explaines Bobby. "Twitty had had a couple hits but he was overpriced, so Buddy went after Roy Orbison, whose last four records had all gone top ten. He was nearly the hottest thing going, yet his price was real reasonable. He'd just fired his band, so Buddy promised him a backup group that was really hot. that turned out to be us; we went out and bought some Orbison records and copied the arrangements, and it worked out surprisingly well. Orbison asked us to become his permanent group."
This unexpected offer placed Bobby and his colleagues at a threshold of decision; should they run off seeking fame and fortune or stay in college?
"I wasn't too sure of what I wanted to study," recalls Goldsboro. "My main interest was now music, I was making good money at it, beginning to wrote songs, and the band was sounding good. We thought we could do it, so we accepted Roy's offer. It was, looking back on it, pretty daring, especially by today's standards. I'd never do it again, but I'm glad I tried it once."
What Bobby and the Webbs tried was the road, for two and a half years with Orbison. Roy would fly between cities while the Webbs would travel by car. They went through all kinds of hassles, from freezing in blizzards to sleeping five to a room to earn their baptism by fire.
"We didn't make a whole lotta money either," says Bobby. "I remember my last full year with Roy, 1963, I was able to travel all over the U .S. and Europe, with Roy paying the bills, but at the end of the year, when I filled out my tax form, I realized I hadn't made any money. I said to myself 'this is getting out of hand.' I had just gotten married, I was literally seeing the world and still I didn't have anything in the bank. My wife was putting up with a lot then, and she deserved better. We both did."
It was the Webbs's vacations that proved to hold the key for Bobby's escape. Back in Dothan, after coming in from Roy's tours, the band would find some gigs on their own or head off to Birmingham {beginning of typographical error-ed} bought a couple of our master tapes and sold them to four different people simultaneously. Then he disappered off to Puerto Rico or somewhere. It was pretty funny, expect that one of the people who thought he was buying sole rights to our tapes was Jack Gold, then an independent producer. He apparently liked my voice and compositions.
Bobby, who had taped some intermittent local success with a couple of Webbs singles, was now looking forward to the big time in a big way. To his surprise, however, Jack Gold had founded him a tune called " Molly", about a blind soldier returning from the Civil War.
"I looked at the lyrics he sent me in the mail," says Bobby, "and I really wondered. 'This is gonna be my first record in the big time? I was disappointed at first, but I learned that Jack had a pretty good ear for hit ballads. "Molly" made the lower part of the top 100, so it got me going. Two follow-ups bombed though, so I was essentially starting over again when Jack was hired by United Artists at the end of 1963."

Bobby had continued writing during this period, still touring with Orbison ( including one to Britain on the bill with the Beatles ) and working with the Webbs. But he was getting itchy, and began working on Gold to let him record some of his own tunes. Gold finally relented and along with a pair of nonoriginals, Bobby cut two of his own songs in New York in October, 1963. One of them was "See the Funny Little Clown".
"See the Funny Little Clown" rose into the national top ten during a turbulent period for the American culture. People were in shock over the recent assassination of President Kennedy, looking for ways to escape the memories. It was a time ripe for newcomers who could provide an outlet for the pentup emotions of the time. Bobby Goldsboro got his foot firmly in the door, followed closely by an enormous flood of British artists led by those same Beatles with whom Bobby and Roy Orbison had toured earlier in the year.

Thursday, September 09, 2004

From :
Richard Burke
Sent :
Thursday, September 9, 2004 7:29 PM
To :
"Larry Coe"
CC :
"Frank Tanton" , "Robert Register"

Great, we will all look forward to it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Coe"
To: "Richard Burke"
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:15 AM
Subject: Dothan Musicians
> Hi,
> Got your message. Talked with Jimmy Dean. He agreed it is a great idea.
> gonna write up the Stangers, James Gang, and Beaverteeth. I'll do the
> (with Jimmy
) and the Clique (with you). Talk to ya next week.
> Larry

Wednesday, September 08, 2004

Scroll down on the "Examining The Sires of Dothan's Rock 'N Roll Pedigree" and check out how I tuned Rodney's email up. I saw Rodney play at a Wood's Quad at Bama back in the early 70's with Beaverteeth. I grew up with David Atkins and idolized John Rainey and his mother. I was so excited when I saw Beaverteeth at Wood's Quad. I may be having a brain fart but Ah kayn't help but believe they opened for Linda Ronstadt who's band included Henley and Fry. I worked in the Supe Store and Linda came in on Monday morning wearing a Chiquita Banana T-shirt and bought an ice cream cone. no makeup. Seeing her up close was sooooooooooo cool.
John Rainey and David Atkins grew up near my grandmother's house in Dothan and from 1959 until 1968, I practically lived at my Grandmother Register's house at 209 Jeff Street and the Atkins lived right down the ditch through Porter Woods on Main Street. I used to do Peeping Tom in their front yard because they didn't sit in the living room and watch TV.THEY SAT AROUND AND PLAYED MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS TO ENTERTAIN THEMSELVES! I really felt like that family played music every night.
Teddy, thanks for forwarding that to Rodney. Don't remember ever hearing ya on the air but I think I met you in the lobby of one of those big hotels in downtown Tampa on Gasparilla Day and you and I were hanging out with this big covey uv bored wives whose hubbies were playing Pirate. Does, "Your face, your face, your face! Your nasty, nasty face!" ring a bell.
Anyway, I have many fond memories of La Playa and Joe's In Mad Beach and Davis Island and the Colombia in Ybor City and The Green Frog and Clancy's.
Hey, Teddy, in ' 05, we'll have to hook up with Sam Gellerstedt some time for Gasparilla Day!!!!

Tedd Webb wrote:
Lets count on it. You and I surely have met, we ran in the same circles.
God bless

Tedd Webb wrote:
Did you get the email from Rodney Justo? I forwarded your question to him. He is a great guy.God blessTeddyhttp://www.teddwebb.com

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Submitted September 23, 2002

For the very first time in Cuba, Alabama weblog history I am threatening to separate some uv ya'll from yo' hard earned CA$H!!! Get ready to snap them raggedy little coin purses open and hand over the green cause we gonna git the one and only,former Dothan Mayor LARRY REGISTER to collect the dough to paint a "Dothan Rock 'N Roll Hall of Fame" mural[dust off your old WEBS photos!!!!] in downtown Nutpatch. Check out Johnny Mack Brown and the other murals at the following address
VIVA! ALFARO! CARAJO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Got a wonderful compliment from Rodney Justo today:

"LOVE what you're trying to get done and please send my regards to all of the mentioned people whos names are listed on the e-mail.
What a great bunch of guys,I remember them all.
Well, all great except for Jimmy Dean who we always had to talk out of wearing a dress. "
Check out what happened to Rodney on legendary Tampa star of stage, screen and radio, TEDD WEBB'S website


John Rainey Adkins

Rodney Justo

Dean Daughtry

Billy Gilmore

Bob Nix

That's John Rainey on the right with the beer and I'm pretty sure that's Rodney Justo with his forearm covering his mouth.

I'll have to get back on the sho nuff' ID, checking with Frank and David
Adkins. Believe thats Robert Nix on the bottom and Dean Daughtry center.

and Billy Gilmore standing on the left.
>The Great Frank Tanton wrote:
>To: "Robert Register" ,"Richard Burke"
>Subject: Candymen Pix
>Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 09:45:26 -0500
>Correction... That's Robert Nix, not Dean Daughtry (top center).
>The cat with the hat is Little Bobby Peterson, who played keys with the band before
>Dean Daughtry joined, and later joined "The McCoys", and was featured on the "Human Ball" album (1969).
>The McCoys w/ Bobby later played a daytime show at the Farm Center and David Adkins an I met them back stage.
>Frank Tanton



Dean Daughtry isn't in the Candymen picture attached.
It's Bobby Peterson who preceded Dean in the Candymen.He was a really talented guy who had to leave the group because was drafted.
After he got "dismisssed" from the military we introduced him to Rick Derringer and he joined the McCoys.
I got a call from a lady about 25 years ago that claimed to be his wife and she told me that he was working with Neil Diamond and died of a brain hemmorage.
But then again someone told me about 5 years ago that he was living on the streets of Gainesville,Fl.

The picture came of WTBC of Tuscaloosa's website. Check it out at....

From: "Rodney Justo"

Subject: Re: Candymen roster
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 04:53:47 -0700

I guess that the simplest answer is that Bobby[Goldsboro-ed.] was the rhythm guitar player in Roy's band.
Roy was the first person that I recall that travelled with his own band (with the possible exception of Bobby Vee)
That band was called the Webs.
When Roy came out with Oh Pretty Woman, in an attempt to, for lack of a better word, capitalize, on the success of the current rage for groups vs. single artists Either Roy or Monument records decided to add the band name the Candymen to the artist listing on the record.
At about this time Bobby had a hit with See the funny little clown, and decided to go out on his own, much to Roy's dismay.
We're going back 40 years but my recollection is that there was a tour of Europe scheduled and to make it easier they asked Bill Dees,Roys co-writer ,to accompany them on the tour and to play piano as well as sing the harmony parts.
When that tour was finished I was asked to join the band.
I would think that the person asking whether Bobby was a member of the Candymen was maybe questioning whether he ever did any recording with the band which he did not.
Best wishes .......Rodney

mo' from Rodney:

I think that the comment about the WEBS and the Candymen being different groups is accurate.
There was some inbreeding between
the Ramrods and The Webs if I remember correctly.
The Webs that I remember was with Wilbur Walton Jr.who is a long time friend of mine.
It may interest you to know that at one time Orbison was supposedly going to sue us for using the Candymen name so we decided to use the name The Webs since it didn't appear that anyone else was using it.
We released a record under that name called People Sure Act Funny on MGM (Roys label---the in breeding continues)

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November 11, 1964

Mo' good stuff from Rodney Justo:

The photos shown with Orbison are with Bill Dees,John Rainey Adkins,Bill Gilmore,Paul Garrison,and Bill Sanford.
I also sang some dates with this lineup without Bill Dees.
Roy had some shows booked but since Bobby had just left the group they had no singer and they hired me independently to work with them for a few dates.

From :
Richard Burke
Sent :
Wednesday, September 8, 2004 8:07 PM
To :
"Robert Register"
Subject :
Getting it straight.

Hey Reg,
The thread you are developing on the Webs and the Candymen, I
believe, is inaccurate. I believe they were two independant entities. I've
got my old buddy Larry Coe who knows the chronology and played with I
believe the original Webs and Bobby Goldsboro is fixin' to straighten this
thread out. Seems like "Little Bill" Willie Akeridge was in that soup also.
He went on to play with Joe Zawinul, Weather Report, during the East Coast
Fusion period working from Miami to Yew Nork City. Anyway Larry and I
worked for around four years with Clique during the mid 70's and have been
friends ever since. He's gonna' get with Jimmy Dean and try to get the
chronology and personnel straight.
I've got a call into Mitch Goodson and am going to try to cover the Kapers
and David and Doug Morris are going to assist me with info on the Chimes.
We also need to include information on the great guitarist Jimmy Johnston,[voted Most Talented Seniors '67, Dothan High School-ed.]
Dr. Furnie's and Jo's son
, Jo is a well established composer songwriter from
Dothan. She and John Rainey were working together before John Rainey's
I believe Jimmy Johnston played with the Mar-Teks during this time
before he died in an automobile accident between Enterprise and Dothan. He
and I used to pick at his house and ride horses together.
We also need to develop a thread for Norman Andrews and the Concrete Bubble.
Norman should be a wealth of information regarding the correct chronology.
George Cheshire and Lamar Alley need to be contacted also.
We should also profile this period with Doc Greenfield's Club Capri and
Lounge in the Baptist Bottom.
His venue during this period was almost home
to Ike and Tina Turner, the BarKays,
Peggy Scott and Jo Jo Benson,
Clarence Carter, Otis Redding, Percy Sledge
that list goes on and on. I
think Little Lois, Lois Johnson, I think, of Little Lois and the Capri's
still lives here.
She did backing vocals on my recordings with Clique in
75. Jay Scott from Dothan also needs citing for his work with Alicia
Bridges (I like the Night Life), Beeverteeth and Clique
during this period.
He was a great saxaphonist and Latin Percissionist.
I just got off the phone with Mitch Goodson. He is going to drop by the
shop and I'll get Frank Tanton, Doug and David Morris, David Adkins and
Jimmy Dean's brother Robert Dean
, who booked all of us during this period,
over and if we can hold it in the road long enough we'll try to get some
straight info, well, we'll have straight info until a wheel runs off. Mitch
has been disabled for some time now but brought up his working for three
different owners at the Old Dutch. His parents would take him to work there
when he was fifteen.
He said Lamar Spence of the Impacts helped him get in,
The Impacts, there's a flash from the past. Mitch also had two recordings
make the Billboard Top 100.
We also need to see if WBAM archived any of the Big Bam Shows during this
Period. I know Larry Coe played several concerts there as did all the
aforementioned pickers with the exception of moi.

Tuesday, September 07, 2004
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1 Group & Origin
Music Genre
Now Resides
Years in The Band
Last Public Appearance, Current Status, Misc.

2 Ala, Dothan
Candymen & ( Roy Orbison & The Candymen)
Adkins, John Rainey
Lead Guitar
Webs with Bobby Goldsboro, then Candymen,last was Beaverteeth

3 Ala, Dothan
Candymen & ( Roy Orbison & The Candymen)
Martin, Dewey

4 Ala, Dothan
Candymen & ( Roy Orbison & The Candymen)
Booth, Barry
Piano, band director

5 Ala, Dothan
Candymen & ( Roy Orbison & The Candymen)
Goldsboro, Bobby
Guitar, vocals
joined Webs while in high school, the Webs became Roy Orbison's tour band, went solo after the success of See The Funny Little Clown; the backup band for Roy became the Candymen after Goldsboro's departure, Goldsboro was never actually a member of the Candymen; Rodney Justo became the vocalist for the Candymen who consisted of four members when he joined in 1964 (Gilmore, Garrison, Daughtery, Adkins)

6 Ala, Dothan
Candymen & ( Roy Orbison & The Candymen)
Garrison. Paul
played on "Oh Pretty Woman" session; was a Web- turned Candymen

7 Ala, Dothan
Candymen & ( Roy Orbison & The Candymen)
Dees, Bill
Guitar, vocals
Co wrote "Oh Pretty Woman" background vocals on song

8 Ala, Dothan
Candymen & ( Roy Orbison & The Candymen)
Harman, Buddy
on "Oh Pretty Woman" session (not road)

9 Ala, Dothan
Candymen & ( Roy Orbison & The Candymen)
Sanford, Billy
Lead Guitar
Replaced by John Rainey when John Rainey leaves the "other" Webs (Wilbur Walton, Jimmy Dean, etc.)

10 Ala, Dothan
Candymen & ( Roy Orbison & The Candymen)
Daughtery, Dean
to Classics IV, then Original ARS, now Southern Rock Renegades

11 Ala, Dothan
Candymen & ( Roy Orbison & The Candymen)
Justo, Rodney
Tampa, Fla.
Lead Vocals
From Mystics to Candymen ( when they were a four-man group), then to Noah's Ark and then to Atlanta Rhythm Section, and finally with B.J. Thomas

12 Ala, Dothan
Candymen & ( Roy Orbison & The Candymen)
Gilmore, Billy
Was a Web prior to Candymen, left in May, 1969 to go to Classic IV, co wrote Cherry Hill Park with Robert Nix

13 Ala, Dothan
Candymen & ( Roy Orbison & The Candymen)
Nix, Robert
Replaced Paul Garrison in Candymen, Original Atlanta Rhythm Section, Now Southern Rock Renegades

14 Ala, Dothan
Bowie, Larry

15 Ala, Dothan
Tedder, David
From the last incarnation of the James Gang

16 Ala, Dothan
Wyatt, Tommy
From the last incarnation of the James Gang


Thanks, Marvin Taylor brought it to my attention as well. No
conspiracy, just an oversight which will be corrected. You may have noticed that
I haven't yet posted the Candymen, Rockin' Gilbraltars, or Rubber Band
PDF Directories. They are nearly complete but there are a few items
that I really want to be sure of as it relates to all of them. First, the
Webs were the underlying base group of both the Candymen and Wilbur
Walton & The James Gang of which Bobby Goldsboro was the original guitar
player. I think Wilbur told me that the groups' original name was Spyder
hence Spyder & The Webs and when the lead singer(Spyder)left for Texas,
it became the Webs. He may have been pulling my leg, but it sure
sounded authenic.

I don't think Bobby ever was an authenic Candyman because I think
that's the reason the the name (Candymen) came into being, i.e. Bobby had
the rights to the name (Webs) and when he left...(solo career) he took
it with him...It was about the time John Rainey was returning from
another group of Webs he started that was playing gigs at places like PC
with other members, Wilbur Walton, Jimmy Dean and a couple of others)
Meanwhile as John Rainey was returning to take Goldboro's place, they
became at Roy's request ... the Candymen. The only reason that Roy even
wanted a band name behind his was because at that time "bands" were big.
as in Beatles, Rolling Stones, Beach Boys,... and Roy felt he needed a
band related connotation.

I am a very big fan of the late John Rainey Adkins from the time that
he played for one of my band promotions. We have some very good John
Rainey stories in the book. However, contrary to popular belief, I am not
sure that he played the guitar licks in the recoring of "Oh, Pretty
Woman." I think that the original guitar player for the Candymen, jimmy
Deas, who cowrote the somg with Roy gets that nod. Please feel free to
correct me if I am in error. The readers of The Heeeey Baby Days of Beach
Music just want the fact want to know just the facts, Maam.



> From: robert register <>
> Date: 2004/09/06 Mon PM 07:29:12 EDT
> To:
> Subject: How Come Glenn Griffin Ain't Listed With The K-Otics?
> The "K-Otics" from the Sixties
> L to R: Glen Griffin[A SR. '66 DOTHAN HIGH TIGER!!!!] on his Vox
organ, Tommy "Swamp Man" Mann, Kim Venable
> Marvin Taylor (seated) and Ray Goss
> Greg:
> Is this a conspiracy theory or something? Why wasn't Glenn listed
with the K-Otics on your website? Is there more to this than meets the
eye? Is there bad blood between Glenn and the rest of the gang? I have
a couple of pictures of Glenn from the Dothan High School yearbook, The
Gargoyle 1966. Glenn was voted most talented in Seniors ' 66 Who's Who
. There's a picture of him making mud pies with Lizzie Woodruff in the
Who's Who section. Also have his senior portrait.
> Whasss up wid Glenn?
> Thanks for
putting Wilbur up on your site.
> best,
> robert