THE CANDYMENAmerican Bandstand - Brenton Wood / The
CandymenEpisode Information
Episode Number 1803
First Aired December 2, 1967 Guest Stars: Brenton Wood (as Himself) The Candymen (as Themselves)
Synopsis
--Brenton Wood – "Gimme Little Sign" (and possibly "Baby You Got It")
--The Candymen – "Georgia Pines"A 1990 Interview With
Bill Dees http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/Stage/1840/misc/dees2.htmlWhat about "Oh Pretty Woman" ?
I had a Spanish melody (sings the melody of "Pretty woman walk on by"), a simple thing, and we hadn't figured out how to use it. Roy's wife, Claudette, said, "Give me some money honey" and it was a very flirtatious scene as he said "What For?" and she replied, "I've got to go to the store." I said "A Pretty Woman don't need no money " and he started singing "Pretty Woman walking down the street". He sang while I was banging my hand on the table and by the time that Claudette came back, we had the song. Fred Foster at Monument said "It'd be nice if we had an ending" and we spent a day on that. From the moment the rhythm started, I could hear the heels clicking on the pavement, click, click, the pretty woman walking down the street, in a yellow skirt and red shoes. Perhaps it's a sailor singing the song. She goes by and flashes him a half-smile, as if to say "I'm above this". He looks back at his watch and when he looks back, she's looking at him. We wrote "Pretty Woman" on a Friday, the next Friday we recorded it, and the next Friday it was out. It was the fastest thing I ever saw. The Beatles were hot and Fred Foster felt that Monument had to release it quickly. Actually, the 'yeah yeah yeah' in "Oh Pretty Woman probably came from the Beatles.
The growl and the 'Mercy' are as well-known as the lyric.
People think I'm copying the record if I go 'Mercy' but I have been doing that for over 30 years and it's hard to stop. When I see a pretty woman or eat good food, I say "Mercy". There are two spots on the record where the guitars were doing their thing and Roy said "Should we do something here?" I said "Why don't you say 'Mercy' or growl?" (growls) I got Roy growling but mine is in the throat. I couldn't do it like he did it.
And were you on the session?Yes I sang with him which was really exciting. I was singing on the No. 1 record and it was like a duet. Of course he could have tracked it. but it said
'Roy Orbison and the Candymen' on the label and
I was the one that named the group,
the Candymen. It would have been nice if he had given me
1% or something, but I got
$80. When I asked for a gold record, Monument said I would have to pay for it!
The biggest arguments that Roy and I had were over money. Roy paid me
$50 a night when we toured and as we were usually working six nights a week, that's
$300 a week. I felt it should be
$350 as I'd be in a strange town on the 7th night but he wouldn't accept that. He said, "Nobody works seven days a week." Paul Garrison got his revenge by setting up his drums before Roy went on stage and telling Roy's jokes to the audience. Roy came out and said, "I just flew in and, boy, my arms are tired," and wondered why nobody would laugh. When he found out it was Paul, he almost fired him.
A 1990 Nick Kent Interview With
Neil Young http://www.4waysite.com/articles/thisyoung.htmI interviewed
Roy Orbison just before his death and he told me you'd approached him once and told him that after seeing a gig in
Winnipeg when you were a teenager you'd decided to become a Professional musician. Is that true?
"Oh absolutely yeah! This was years ago -
'62 maybe. I saw him in Winnipeg, saw him all over the place that year. Got to talk to him once outside a gig. He was coming out of his motor-home with his backing band
the Candymen. That had a profound effect on my life. I always loved Roy. I looked up to the way he was, admired the way he handled himself. That aloofness he had influenced me profoundly. It was the way he carried himself, y'know, with this benign dignity ... His music was always more important than the media. It wasn't a fashion statement. It wasn't about being in the right place at the right time making the right moves. That didn't matter to Roy. Just like it doesn't matter to me. "Anyway I've always put a piece of Roy Orbison on every album I've made. His influence is on so many of my songs . . .
I even had his photograph on the sleeve of'Tonight's The Night' for no reason, really. Just recognizing his presence. There's a big Orbison tribute song on 'Eldorado' called Don't Cry. That's totally me under the Roy Orbison . .. spell. When I wrote it and recorded it I was thinking 'Roy Orbison meets trash metal' ( laughs). Seriously."
An Interview with Craig Weidenheimer of Monroeville, Alabama's
THE SEEDS OF TIMEhttp://home.unet.nl/kesteloo/seedstime.html60s: How popular locally did The Seeds of Time become?
CW: We were popular enough to play to play regularly and in some towns were the most popular band around. It was good to be known somewhere and be welcomed.
60s: How far was the band's "touring" territory?
CW: We covered central and southern Alabama, and the panhandle of Florida. We played sparingly outside of that territory too - if it paid. We played in Tuscaloosa a lot at the University of Alabama.
60s: What other local groups of the era do you especially recall?
CW: I remember
The Rubber Band,
The K-Otics,
The Rockin' Gibralters, The Phaetons,
The Candymen (Roy Orbison's band), and
The Classics IV.
60s: Where was the She's Been Traveling Around The World / Gina 45 recorded?
CW: It was recorded in Montgomery in a studio that I think did mostly commercials. There was one engineer and of course we basically played live, but all of the instruments were mic-ed and it did go though a mixing board. I believe we had two mics to sing into, and it was recorded into a two-track recorder. It took us about three takes for each side.
Message:
FROM THE ARCHIVES OF THE SPECTROPOP DISCUSSION GROUPDate: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 22:04:31 EDT
From:
Al KooperSubject: Re:
The Candymen
Phil Milstein:
> Wasn't The Candymen the name of Roy Orbison's backing group?
> If so, was it a different Candymen than the one that turned
> into ARS? Also, why am I confusing The Candymen with the group
> that became The Allman Brothers? Maybe they had a candy-related
> name, too, such as Allman Joy or something like that.
Candymen began by backing Orbison, Then recorded by themselves
and evolved into ARS. Hourglass (wouldn't eat one of those, Phil)
became Allmans from Florida to LA. Only common ground was red clay
of Georgia later on.
Message: 14
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 22:20:41 EDT
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Re: The Candymen
Shawn:
> Nix did a few Lynyrd Skynrd LPs THEN...Daughtry, Nix & Justo
> went to ARS for their 1st Decca LP. Nix & Justo were gone soon
> after...Daughtry is still with ARS today. (confused yet?)
Actually Nix only played on Tuesdays Gone from the 1st Skynyrd
album and that time period was consistent with the recording of
the Back Against The Wall ARS album. The base of operations was
Buddy Buie's Studio One studios in Doraville, GA.
Al Kooper
Message: 18
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 22:29:37 EDT
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Re: The Candymen
Me:
> They evolved into the Atlanta Rhythym Section - same drummer,
> bassist and keyboardist. Rodney Justo lasted one album in that
> configuration.
Austin:
> Thanks Al. Also, I heard that you played on Sweet Home Alabam,
> is this true?
I played acoustic guitar, produced it, and right after Van Zant
sings "Well I heard Mr. Young sing about her....." you can
subliminally hear with headphones on, me imitating Neil Young
singing Southern Man.... (only for people with BIG EARS)
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 12:37:21 -0000
From: Shawn
Subject: Re: The Candymen
Atkins, Goldsboro & others first made a 45 as "The Webs" - 02 instrumental sides which features Goldsboro doing his cricket
imitation.
Orbison picked up the group while performing in Dothan, Alabama
which is where Adkins (group founder) was from and renamed them The
Candymen after his current hit "Candy Man".
Paul Garrison, Billy Sandford, Billy Gilmore, Bob Dees & John R.
Atkins was lineup on "Pretty Woman" and "The Orbison
Way" LP - you can see this group on the Ed Sullivan footage. If you
get the tape of the Orbison Holland tour, Robert Nix is already on
drums. Goldsboro was gone before any recordings took place. Rodney
Justo of Tampa was brought in to replace Goldsboro (formerly of
Rodney & The Mystics). Sandford & Dees left, Dean Daughtry took
Dees' place on keys & this is the LP lineup of The Candymen.
They did 2 excellent LPs on ABC & 1 non-LP 45, then in 1969 Gilmore
& Daughtry went with Dennis Yost & Classics IV (Gilmore stayed on
until 1975). Adkins put out one 45 as The Candymen "Happy Tonight"
but it was him & local session players, I don't believe any of the
other previous members are on it.
Adkins & Justo then formed Beaverteeth & did 2 LPs, and 1 45
"Georgia Pines" (tough to find), then they broke up. Justo did
quite a bit of backup vocal session work including a good stint with
BJ Thomas. Nix did a few Lynyrd Skynrd LPs THEN...Daughtry, Nix &
Justo went to ARS for their 1st Decca LP. Nix & Justo were gone soon
after...Daughtry is still with ARS today. (confused yet?)
John Rainey Adkins concentrated on songwriting and had just had some
success when a heart attack took him. Gilmore collected civil war
guns, and enjoyed toying with them. A Tomahawk had gone off in his
home once before, but a second time got him in the head and he was
gone in 1978.
So yes, The Candymen Orbison band & "Georgia Pines" group are one
and the same. The "Twist" LP on eBay is NOT this group though. I
suggest checking out The Candymen's 1st ABC LP, tracks such as
"Movies In My Mind" and "Lonely Eyes" kick butt.
If you can decifer the above, you'll see that The Candymen are
responsible for the early "Atlanta Sound" (Lowery Studios)...evident
on Classics IV, ARS & Beaverteeth LPs.
I've spoken with all surviving members of The Candymen, they shared
the stage & partied with Mama Cass, and a infamous gig with Pink
Floyd at the Cheetah. Some interesting & wild stories!
Here's a great page about Rodney & what he's up to today:
http://www.teddwebb.com/showcase/where_are_they_now/rodney_justo.html
I have started a photo/info page of The Candymen in fact and will
post the url address here when I get it done if anyone is still
interested!
Shawn
www.superoldies.com
Message: 3
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 15:15:44 +0200
From: Eddy
Subject: Re: The Candymen
According to http://www.geocities.com/orbisonarchive/musicianslive.html
(and as reported previously) these are the people who were at one point
or another in the Candy Men backing Orbison: Dewey Martin - drums,
Robert Nix - drums, Bobby Goldsboro - guitar, Barry Booth - piano, band
director, Paul Garrison - drums, Billy Sandford - lead guitar, Billy
Gilmore - bass and John R. Atkins - guitar.
However, according to http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/ the Atlanta
Rhythm Section was the "brainchild of songwriter-producer Buddy Buie-a
former member of Roy Orbison's Candymen and the pop band Classics IV".
Yet no mention of Buie in above listing. Or did he assume another name
here?
Then, according to http://tinyurl.com/4ujrx Rodney Justo says "When
Bobby (Goldsboro) scored a hit of his own called 'See the Funny Little
Clown', Roy asked if I would take his place. The thought of making less
money than I was already making appealed to me immediately, so off I
went to see the world." Again, no mention of Justo in above listing, yet
he apparently went on the road as a Candy Man. Then the site says: "The
Candymen managed to sneak in a top 40 hit with a song called 'Georgia
Pines' which naturally meant Roy wasn't long for this world and needed
to start looking for another back-up band.".
http://www.alamhof.org/buiebud.htm goes back to the origins of the
band: "Buddy Buie's career started in his hometown of Dothan with boyhood
friend Bobby Goldsboro who had formed a band known as the Webs. The band
learned that Roy Orbison would be coming to Dothan, they learned his songs
so well that Roy asked them to become his touring band. Thus, the Candymen
were born and Buie became Orbison's tour manager as well. Buie had been
writing songs for the Webs and this continued with the Candymen and Roy
Orbison."
Are these people just assuming that the Candy Men and the Candymen are the
same band? If they are indeed the same band, how come one of the leading
Orbison sites on the Net is apparently not aware of these people as members
of the Candy Men, in spite of the fact that their names are all over the
Web? Questions, questions, questions, floating in the mind of the concerned
young citizen of today...
Eddy
Message: 17
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 17:05:51 -0400
From: Joe Nelson
Subject: Re: The Candymen / Roy Orbison
Phil X Milstein:
> Wasn't The Candymen the name of Roy Orbison's backing group?
> If so, was it a different Candymen than the one that turned
> into Atlanta Rhythm Section? Also, why am I confusing The
> Candymen with the group that became The Allman Brothers? Maybe
> they had a candy-related name, too, such as Allman Joy or
> something like that.
Eddy:
> Totally different band backing Orbison! Here's a list of the people
> that at one point or another were members of Orbison's Candy Men:
> Dewey Martin - drums, Robert Nix - drums, Bobby Goldsboro - guitar,
> Barry Booth - piano, band director, Paul Garrison - drums, Billy
> Sandford - lead guitar, Billy Gilmore - bass and John R. Atkins -
> guitar.... Although as far as I can see it is not the same band,
> apparently two members actually toured with Orbison as well. So this
> may need a little more investigation.
The Candymen are credited on the "Oh! Pretty Woman" single, although
I'm not sure they actually played on it. Either way, maybe someone can
answer a question about that recording:
The song's biggest "hook" was obviously all those guitars banging out
that eight-note E7 riff in unison - e,e,g#,b,d,f#,e,d. Listening to
the recoird closely, it sounds like the bass player tried to muscle up
the song by changing the last three notes. At the F# he drops an
octave, back to the fourth string instead of the second where the rest
of the group was. This puts the D note below the range of his axe, so
he substitutes a G#. Am I the only one who hears this? I'm not sure
anyone who ever toured with Orbison ever played this.
Joe Nelson
PLUS DIS STUFF:
Tim Boykin wrote:
>>I believe that a couple of these guys were from north Alabama, and legend has it
>>that they were Roy Orbison's backing band (the name "Candymen" taken
from Roy's awesome incredible single "Candy man"). Many musicians in my area of the
60s generation are prone to get big-eyed and opine about the Candymen's prowess as a
live band - "nobody could touch 'em..." Enough people have told me the same story now
that I believe it. They were apparently a truly dangerous live band.
I've got some of their stuff... I haven't had a chance to really delve deeply into it
yet, but what I've heard so far is pretty interesting. There's definitely a sort of
off-kilter psychedelic jug band vibe on some of this stuff, a bit of Loving Spoonful
and Beatles but also with some Scott Walker baritone weirdness. I would say
definitely worthy of checking out for any 60s pop fanatics.<<
Timmeh:
This is what the late Lillian Roxon had to say about the Candymen--John Adkins/guitar,
Rodney Justo/lead vocals, Dean Daughtry/keyboards, Billy Gilmore/bass, and Bob
Nix/drums--in her classic _Rock Encyclopedia_ (1969, Grosset & Dunlap):
"The Candymen are a southern white group who specialize in extraordinary live
reproduction of complex Beatle and Beach Boy material. Their ability to duplicate *in
person* the recordings of such tributes to modern engineering as 'Good Vibrations'...
and 'Day In The Life'... gave them quite a following when they first appeared in New
York in the summer of 1967. (Before that they had spent several years touring around
the world as Roy Orbison's backup group.) In spite of their good honest country-rock
sound, well larded with Alabama soul, they have yet to come up with a substantial hit.
Unfortunately, the group's *original* material was not quite up to those uncanny
duplications of other people's electronic wizardries."
Apparently, these guys were really something remarkable, as long as they stuck to live
performances of material by Orbison, Brian Wilson, and/or Lennon & McCartney. On
record, playing their own stuff, not so much.
Chuck Limmer
n.p. "God Only Knows," Jonatha Brooke, BACK IN THE CIRCUS (Speaking of great Brian
Wilson covers... )