Good Morning, Evahbody!

Ain't it grand when John Rainey gets pulled into this whole birth of guitar distortion effects debate!
And Al Kooper, to boot!

Evah one uv ya'll have a SUPUH SATIDDEE !!!!
best,
reg

ROBERT,
SPEAKING OF GUITAR DISTORTION, I KNOW A LITTLE.
JOHN RAINEY HAD THE FIRST DISTORTION PEDAL IN AMERICA AS FAR AS I KNOW. YOU CAN ASK THE MEMORY CELL(RODNEY) TO VERIFY. JIMMY PAGE GAVE IT TO JOHN RAINEY IN LONDON AFTER WE TOURED AUSTRALIA WITH THE WALKER BROTHERS AND
ROY ORBISON. THE YARDBIRDS OPENED THE SHOW AND WE BECAME VERY CLOSE WITH PAGE. HE LOVED THE CANDYMEN AND EVEN SAID HE WAS QUITING THE YARDBIRDS AND STARTING A NEW BAND. HE SAID HE MIGHT EVEN MOVE TO ATLANTA AND PLAY WITH US. LATER HE STARTED LED ZEPPELIN. THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE I CAN TELL ABOUT THIS STORY, BUT MAYBE IN A BOOK.
OH YEAH!
WE ALSO HAD THE FIRST MARSHALL AMPS EVER IN THE U.S.
ASK RODNEY THE ROCKER!!!
GOOD EVENING,
RENEGADE ROBERT NIX!!!

On Dec 3, 2004, at 9:25 PM, hopper wrote:

>
> their guitar player stole the riff in their single from Duane Allman.
> It
> is the ascending riff that leads into the guitar solo. I could be
wrong
> and Duane may have gotten it from him. I think Duane used that riff
on
> one of the Allman Joys recordings.

Yawn
Any guitarist worth his salt knows the Blues Magoos theft is from
James Burton's playing on Rick Nelson's vintage version of "Summertime"
Note for note steal by The Magoos.
Good night now
>
Al Kooper

Subject: Re: Just curious
To: robertoreg2003@yahoo.com


I won't email the guy, Robert. It's just that I noticed he was really mixed up about us and the Candymen and whatever. He knows interesting stuff, so it's cool with me.
Jimmy Dean

HEY YA'LL:
Check out da picture of the KID from December of '74: only 30 years ago. Found it in the same place as PSYCHEDELIC LOLLIPOP.
Bruce Hopper rewarded all of us with an OMEN AND THEIR LUV response to yesterday's post and further Internet investigation conclusively shows that somebody needs to talk to former BLUES MAGOOS guitarist Mike Esposito.
Regardless of The BLUES MAGOOS being a one hit wonder, those cats stood tall in the winter of '66 and the spring of '67 ! Prior to THE SUMMER OF LOVE, these dudes flew that FREAK FLAG HIGH!
BEST,
robo http://robertoreg.blogspot.com







Robert,
The only thing that I remember hearing about the Blues Magoos is that
their guitar player stole the riff in their single from Duane Allman. It
is the ascending riff that leads into the guitar solo. I could be wrong
and Duane may have gotten it from him. I think Duane used that riff on
one of the Allman Joys recordings.
In regards to the talk of putting the vox distortion booster on a
telecaster, you can see a good example of that on the picture of the Omen
that you have on us playing in the TCHS gym. Mike Thornton put it on his
Fender Esquire (same as a Telecaster but minus one pick-up). He did it
just like Duane, using two broom holders screwed into the guitar and
then snapped the distortion booster into it, and attached the cords and
you have it. I will attempt to send it to you.
hopper

http://www.classicbands.com/bluesmagoos.html
Formed in the Bronx, New York, USA, in 1964 and initially known as The Trenchcoats, the founding line-up consisted of Emil "Peppy" Thielhelm, vocals, guitar, Dennis LaPore, lead guitar, Ralph Scala, organ and vocals, Ronnie Gilbert, bass and John Finnegan, drums . The group quickly became an important part of the emergent Greenwich Village rock scene and in 1966 secured a residency at the fabled Night Owl club. Near the end of '66, the band was calling itself "Bloos Magoos" and Mike Esposito was brought in as their new lead guitarist. Esposito had at one time been in a college band with Lou Reed, and his inventive guitar playing, utilizing controlled feedback and tape-echo devices, added a new dimension to the group's sound.

http://www.angelfire.com/tn/LSkynyrd/allman1.html
The Hour Glass records remain an interesting study in Duane and Gregg's versatility. Despite the band's misgivings about how the recordings were handled, there were some revealing moments on the two discs.
"Cast Off All My Fears," on Hour Glass, is a positive-thinking anthem characteristic of the late '60s and produced with a heavy fuzz-tone overlay reminiscent of the Blues Magoos. The song was written by Jackson Browne, who still hadn't recorded on his own at this time.

From a GRITZ Magazine interview with PETE CARR www.gritz.net/inner_views/pete_carr.html
Meeting Gregg and Duane Allman from the Allman Joys when I was about 15 or 16 was exciting to me also but in a much different way. They were not yet famous like Paul Simon but they were Daytona's only real band that had traveled and played in other cities like Nashville, New York's Greenwich Village, etc. I had heard so much about them and how great they were. They were older than me but still just kids, also. I think they played the usual stuff that was popular at that time. Songs playing on the radio, etc. The first time I actually met them (I had seen them play a couple of years earlier as the House Rockers) was when they returned from playing at Trudy Heller's in New York's Greenwich Village. They were really hyped up about a band called
The Blues MaGoos. Duane had a Vox distortion box clamped to his cream colored Telecaster which I believe he got from them or got the idea from them. Anyway, I had been playing at a club in Daytona called the Martinique. They were now called the Allman Joys and I really anticipated seeing them play since I had heard how great they were. The first time I heard them was when they came into the club and sat in on a few songs. They had had a few too many beers or whatever and I was not very impressed. Of course it wasn't like they had their own band and doing a real gig. It was just a spur of the moment, get up on stage and play something type of situation. There were other people up on stage singing along. Not a showcase episode for talent. They were probably talked into it by someone and they weren't prepared or in any state of mind to do a very good job. Anyway, I told my friends who had been building them up so much that I was not that impressed. Later Duane told me he heard I was disappointed in seeing them play that night and I could tell he planned on being more impressive the next time I heard them play. And I was very impressed later. They had a very good band called the Allman Joys, which seemed to be changing members very frequently. You know it is a hard thing to keep a band together. It always has been which is one reason I preferred recording studio work. Anyway the next time they played for real, I was very impressed with Duane's playing but I was more impressed with Gregg Allmans' singing. He was the best I had ever heard at that time to be a kid. I mean he could sing anything from a pretty R&B /Pop song to a gutsy Ray Charles style, and he was a teenager! He was and still is one of my favorite singers. He was just fantastic. Everyone I knew wished that they could sing like Gregg. Duane was great too, and I loved his playing but I could play a lot of what he was playing at the time also. He did have some cool gadgets like that Vox distortion box and that was impressive at the time. I was impressed enough that I got one and clamped it on my guitar also. Don't get me wrong though, I thought Duane was great and he was. This was teenage years for all of us! Duane and I played together many times over the years and I learned a lot from him. We were best of friends.

from Alberto Guizzetti of Lavagna, Italy http://www.hendrixguitars.com/DuaneAllman.htm

Quando i due fratelli iniziarono ad essere coinvolti con i loro primi gruppi, Duane fu profondamente influenzato da Jeff Beck ie gli Yardbirds. Quando Duane e Gregg formarono gli Allman Joys, iniziarono a suonare per degli ingaggi di lavoro piu' distanti rispetto alla loro citta natale. A New York , essi incontrarono i Blues Magoos che rappresentarono una notevole influenza per Duane. Egli acquisto' il suo primo effetto distorsore da uno dei membri dei Blues Magoos.Duane inizio' a suonare slide quando era con gli Hour Glass, in California. Secondo Peter Carr, il quale suonava il basso con gli Hour Glass e che fu compagno di stanza di Duane a Los Angeles, Duane decise di imparare a suonare slide guitar dopo aver sentito Ry Cooder suonare "Stateboro Blues" di Blind Willie McTell, assieme a Taj Mahal, in un locale di Los Angeles. Duane amava usare il suo slide per imitare i licks di armonica che sentiva nei dischi di Little Walter, Slim Harpo e Sonny Boy Williamson.

HEY YA'LL!
DA BLUES MAGOOS spewed out a cascade of memories from the usual suspects.

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWyker may have come up with a killer hook for a country song in his post:

THE STUFF THAT USED TO TURN ME ON HAS NOW TURNED ON ME....

Thank ya'll so much for responding to yesterday's post. It hit the spot!
best,
robo
Dear Mighty Field Hands !

I remember back when The ALLMAN JOYS

photo courtesy of Dean Smith THE ALLMAN JOYS!!!!
GREGG ON KEYBOARDS, DUANE ON GUITAR, BILL CONNELL ON DRUMS AND BOB KELLER [thanx,johnny] ON BASS

were together in the middle 60's...They got booked in NEW YORK CITY at Trudie Heller's Club in The Village.....that's where Duane Allman first saw The BLUES MAGOOS..
I remember he told me that they played so loud...they had even taken all the volume knobs etc. off of their amps and had screwed a piece of sheet metal over the place where all the knobs were !That way no club owners could make them turn the volume down..they had NO volume knobs ! Set on wide ass open all the time !
That's also where Duane got the idea to use one of those little fuzz/distortion boosters....You can see one on PETE CARR'S early Telecaster....I don't know what that thang was called but Pete and Duane could really work them right!

The first time I ever smoked weed was when The ALLMAN JOYS got back from that gig....I had been lookin' for some to try for a couple of years with no luck...Gregg gave me a baggy with a little dust in the bottom...I did not know how to roll so Tippy Armstrong rolled it...we were on our way to play a RUBBER BAND gig in Albany, Ga....

TIPPY ARMSTRONG WITH JOHNNY WYKER IN THE BACKGROUND AT THE OLD HICKORY ON PANAMA CITY BEACH IN THE SUMMER OF '65. WYKER AND JOE SOBOTKA CO-WROTE "LET LOVE COME BETWEEN US".

ridin' in my 66 Buick Grand Sport and Joe Sobotka was drivin'...We told Joe to stop at a little country store and Tippy bought some OCB papers....

THE RUBBER BAND: seated on couch: second from left, Johnny Wyker,then Tippy Armstrong and Joe Sobotka

when he finished rollin' that thang it was about the size of a tooth pick....but what a kick it had.... The stuff that used to turn me on has now turned on me....leaves a big black cloud over my head most of the time....so I don't mess with it much anymore...

Love & Respect !
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwyker MIGHTY FIELD of VISION


PETE CARR IN MACON: courtesy of Capn Dean
Subject: [MFV] Historical Guitar

Hi,

Below is (and attached) is a pic of me playing in Capricorn Studios about 1969.

The guitar which I bought from Sylvan Wells when I was younger and still living in Port Orange

(right south adjoining Daytona) has some great stories that go with it. I just did a session with Paul Hornsby and

he reminded me that when Duane first started playing Slide Guitar that he used my

Tele (shown above) to use for slide playing for a while in our live gigs.

At first Paul thought his slide playing sounded terrible and it was but he was just learning.

So, this is the guitar that Duane learned to play slide on or one of the main ones anyway in the very beginning of his departure into the slide guitar realm.

Also when we were doing a gig in Jacksonville FL. one night Duane got into

a “Who” mood and threw the guitar down on the floor and broke the neck

right at the head stock. I took it back to Port Orange and my Dad glued it

back together. He did a fine job. You can still see a hairline crack

where the break was from Duane throwing it down on the floor.

This guitar might be worth some good money to some hard core big Duane Allman fan for historical value.

I also have a picture of Duane’s daughter, Galadrielle (That is a hard name for me to remember the spelling of)

holding the guitar somewhere that I will post when I find it. I wouldn’t let of it go cheap though.

What do you think.
PETE CARR

http://playthatguitar.com

From the keyboard of ROCKIN' RODNEY JUSTO....
The Candymen did a show with them[ BLUES MAGOOS-ed.] once in Marietta,Ga.
Two things come to my mind...I had never met Joe South even though I had seen him around Bill Lowery's studio and he came up to me after the show and told me that we were the best band he had ever heard.
At that time we were just really coming into our own as far as having the whole group singing.
The other was that Barry Bailey later told me that he was at that show and how much he loved the band.
I have a really good memory but i can't remember who else was on that show.
Maybe Nix remembers.
By the way one of the guys in the Blues Magoos was a guy named Pepe Castro who went on to be a pretty succesful jingle singer in New York.

RODNEY

From BIG BOB NIX....

ROBERT,
I REMEMBER THEM[BLUES MAGOOS-ed] WELL!! WE PLAYED SHOWS WITH THEM AND SAM THE SHAM AND THE PHAROAHS

FOR HUGH BABY JARETT AT WFOM MARIETTA, GA. SEVERAL TIMES WHEN WE WERE THE CANDYMEN. HUGH BABY STARTED AS THE BASS SINGER FOR ELVIS AND THE JORDANAIRES!! LATER HE SANG WITH US (ARS) ON A COUPLE OF CUTS! I PARTICULARLY REMEMBER THE SONG 'JESUS HEARTED PEOPLE' THAT WE WROTE AT LAKE EUFAULA! I STILL LOVE THAT SONG!
RENEGADE ROBERT NIX!!
P.S. ASK JUSTO ABOUT THE BLUES MAGOOS, REMEMBER HE'S THE MEMORY CELL!!!!


an old post by Wyker on Mighty Field of Vision yahoogroups that's icing on the cake[even though there may be a little bit of confusion 'bout the Candymen]....
About the same time that the Rubber Band was on it's last leg the same thang was happening to The James Gang...the Southern James Gang...which featured Wilbur Walton as their singer...the other members also doubled as The Candymen when they backed up Roy Orbison....most of those cats later formed The Atlanta Rhythm Section...Buddy Buie from Dothan produced both The James Gang and ARS...I used to go to Hotlanta back in the 60's and stay with Buddy and Robert Nix...Nix was the drummer for these groups in those days...and now all of a sudden I just remembered where I lost my first wedding ring...and that was at Nix's apartment..damn I'm firing some old memory cells tonight...amazing how the old human mind can be inspired to recall events in the long lost past .....

Anyway...when the Rubber Band finally snapped and broke up I still had a bunch of gigs lined up to play and no band to do it....the Christmas party session was about to happen and Wilbur Walton was also left with all of the gigs that James Gang had contacted to play....I had known Wilbur for years...when I was in high school I used to go down to Tuscaloosa and attend all of the fraternity rush parties and Wilbur was in college then and he was a member of The Sex Above Everythang Frat...in laymen's' terms that would be The SAE's......anyway Wilbur called me one day and said that he was holding a bunch of James Gang gigs and that he would pay me to put a band together...I think he offered me some pretty good money too...so I told him that I had the same problem...gigs and no band...so the best way to solve the problem was to put one band together to cover ALL the gigs......

One night we were The Rubber Band and maybe the next night we were The James Gang......I played bass and I hired Court Pickett to sing....and Lou Mullenix on drums...and I think Jim Coleman was on keyboards...and Tippy Armstrong played guitar on some of the gigs and Ronnie Brown played guitar...and on some gigs Frank Freidman played a second guitar....Frank was a founding member of THIS SIDE UP....

Court sang lead when we were The Rubber Band...and Wilbur sang lead when we were The James Gang.......this worked out pretty well at first when the gigs were far a apart....and in different towns.....we were all making great money and having a ball doin' it.....except when Wilbur had to do the singin'.....by this time he was a real big drunk...and would not sing until he was totally juiced up...it took us a while to get his M. O. down...he would say the PA was broken and tell us to stall with more instrumentals....we finally figured out what he was up to...and we just played a bunch of freeform jams...remind me to tell the cat tale of how we brain washed a crowd in Auburn with a one chord groove that put the whole place in a trance dance.....

Anyhow......thangs were going fine until about the middle of the Christmas session and we played a gig in Mobile as The Rubber Band....then the next night in the very same building we came in as The James Gang...we got away with it until the third night when we played the same place for a different girls club as The Rubber Band again.......it was really scary to be on the bandstand and to watch people in the crowd whispering to each other...you could read their lips..."Was'nt that the same guy that played with..so and so band.the other night......well.... I don't know how we ever got out of there alive that last night...but we did......I'm sure their was some fast talkin' involved and some fast cars too.....!"

1967

The Summer Of Love comes to a close as The Who continue their North American tour opening for Herman's Hermits. They play the Indiana Fairgrounds Coliseum in Indianapolis on the 1st, followed by the Ohio State Fairgrounds in Columbus (2nd, 3rd and 4th). The early show on the 3rd is filmed by NBC-TV for a show called In Concert With Herman's Hermits. Unfortunately, The Who do not appear in the show. As soon as the early show is over on the 3rd, everyone hops on the plane to play an 8pm show at the Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, then back to Columbus for the next day's early show. Before one of these flights, The Blues Magoos' lead guitarist Ronnie Gilbert walks through what he thinks is an open glass door, severely injuring himself. The Blues Magoos drop out for the rest of the tour.



http://www.bluesmagoos.com/
FROM AN INTERVIEW WITH ALAN MERRILL, composer of "I LOVE ROCK AND ROLL!":
http://60spunk.m78.com/alanmerrill.html

H:Do you know N.D.Smart II who was drummer of Kangaroo?

A:We played the same show as Kangaroo often. I knew N.D. Smart back then. He was not very friendly. He was a little older, and in those days that had big meaning. Ted Spelios was the nicest guy, and an AMAZING guitarist. Only Hendrix was better. Ted was my age. Jon Hall was nice at first, but as soon as he got his record deal he became a snob. Silly boy. The best bands playing in Greenwich Village were-at the "Cafe Wha"- The Peeple, The Raves, Blue Mystics, Overland Stage, and the ones you know like Castilles and Kangaroo. And around the corner at the Night Owl Cafe- James Taylor and the Flying Machine, Loving Spoonful, The Strangers (Carl Peachman was with them for a while before the Watertower West) Blue Magoos, Barry and The Remains, The Vagrants with Leslie West, so many good bands on one city block !

County considers taking over state park


Peggy Ussery
Eagle Staff Writer
Friday, November 5, 2004


With its 23-acre lake, picnic tables and hiking trails, Chattahoochee State Park sits nestled in the southeast corner of Houston County.

But there it sits, unused.

The Alabama Department of Conservation and Natural Resources closed the park on Oct. 1. Considered a financial drain, the state and Houston County are in negotiations to turn the park over to the county. County Commissioner Bobby Snellgrove - who has led a committee looking at the park - said he hopes to have a recommendation for the full commission in two weeks.

"We want to approach it one year at a time and look at this thing real close and not go too fast with it," Snellgrove said. "We don't want to invest a lot of money without seeing a return."

Tim Wishum, assistant operations supervisor for the state's parks division, said the park saw 5,228 guests in the 2004 budget year with 468 of those being overnight camping guests. The previous year, the park had 6,865 visitors with 342 overnight guests.

Snellgrove said he sees a lot of potential for Chattahoochee State Park - a place to picnic and camp, a swimming hole and a stocked fish pond, and one of the few areas with a handicapped-accessible hunting area. The handicapped hunting area is the only part of the park that is still open to the public.

Chattahoochee State Park is 16th Section Land. When Alabama divided the state into sections, each 16th section was given to local school systems and those school systems receive revenues off those properties.

"If we don't take it and operate it, the gates are closed and it's going to stay closed," Snellgrove said of the park. "?We just feel like we can move in there and provide a service for the people."

But with all the recreational possibilities, there's also a piece of history at stake.

Chattahoochee State Park was developed in the 1930s by the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) - a depression-era program designed to put young men from low-income families to work. It was a win-win - the young men got jobs with part of their monthly pay sent back home and communities received labor for public projects.

"I think that's kind of a neat tie to the history of our country," said William Holman, executive director of Landmark Park and a member of the local committee looking at the state park transfer.

Holman said Chattahoochee State Park is also home to long-leaf pines, which could be key for recreating a habitat for wiregrass - the area's namesake and virtually non-existent after years of development. And, Holman said the park is near the area where the state line was originally surveyed and marked.

Chattahoochee was one of numerous state parks developed by the CCC. The Houston County park near Gordon became a project site in 1935 and CCC Company 4449 began work with 25 men on Aug. 11 of that year. Another 174 men joined them on Aug. 15. Men rotated in and out of the camp on six-month stints.

Bob Pasquill, forest archaeologist and historian with the USDA Forest Service in Montgomery, has researched the CCC camps and their role in the development of Alabama's state parks.

"For a state park to get off the ground you need two things - you need land and you need someone to develop it," Pasquill said. "Civic-minded people had donated land to the state, but there was no labor to develop them."

The Chattahoochee project, he said, was 596 acres. The CCC workers developed the park's roads and foot trails, bridges and culverts, parking areas, cabins, and outdoor fire places for grilling. They also built a 500-foot earthen dam to create the 23-acre lake. They built the caretaker's lodge and barn which still stand today. And, they laid the stonework that lines the park's entrance and encircles the caretaker's lodge. The earthen dam is topped with the same stone work.

The workers lived on site and had baseball games and possibly even dances, Pasquill said. They published a newspaper - The Chattahoochee Chatter. Transportation was provided to take the workers into nearby Gordon, and the project meant roughly $5,000 a month spent locally on supplies. The camp even made efforts to host visitation days for the public so local residents would feel more at ease with having the workers nearby.

"On one hand the merchants are pleased," Pasquill said. "On the other hand, 200 young guys may not be good news for the community."

On June 14, 1936, Chattahoochee State Park - known as State Park No. 13 - was opened to the public. And in 1937, the project was completed and abandoned by the CCC.

Pasquill said it would be tragic to destroy what remains of their work.

"They were a key piece to the development of the state parks system of Alabama," he said.

Eagle Staff Writer Peggy Ussery can be reached at aussery@dothaneagle.com or 712-7963.

This fellow, William Augustus Bowles, was imprisoned and died in Havana's Morro Castle. May 25, 2003 marked the 200th anniversary of his arrest at Hickory Ground (home of the Porch Creek Bingo Parlor) near present-day Wetumpka, Alabama. More on Director-General Bowles later.

MORRO CASTLE, AT THE MOUTH OF HAVANA HARBOR, WAS THE PRISON WHERE BOWLES DIED IN DECEMBER, 1805


A MAP OF THE NEGRO FORT BASED UPON ITS LOCATION TO FORT GADSDEN
NOT ONLY WAS THE FORBES&CO. STORE LOCATED NEAR HERE, BOWLES USED PROSPECT BLUFF AS ONE OF HIS HEADQUARTERS BEFORE HIS LAST ARREST IN 1803

My name is Robert Register. I was brought up in Dothan but now I live in Northport across the river from Tuscaloosa. I am contacting you because I am working on commemorating an important anniversary. May 25, 2004 will mark the 200th anniversary of the signing of the Forbes Purchase at Chiskatalofa, an Indian village located around Ellicott Mound #381 (survey mile marker built during the survey of the first U.S. Southern Boundary in 1799.) This village was located 381 miles east of the Mississippi River near the point where Alabama, Florida and Georgia intersect on the west bank of the Chattahoochee in present-day Houston County, Alabama just south of Dothan. This deed of cession of 1.2 million acres east of the Apalachicola River to John Forbes & Co. began an entire series of treaties where Indians paid their debts with the only thing they possessed, their land.(Chiskatalofa was also the site of the 1811 negotiations with the Indians which expanded the Forbes Purchase to include St. Vincent Island) Since Forbes got the land for about 5 cents an acre, this transaction is considered by many to be the greatest real estate deal in American History and it occurred in Houston County, Alabama.So what's this got to do with Pensacola?Well on December 3, 1804, Governor Folch confirmed the Indian cession in Pensacola. This is a 200th anniversary that ya'll can commemorate because it represents the advent of debt collection by way of land cession from the Indians. Since John Forbes moved to his sugar plantation, Canimar, in Matanzas Province, Cuba in 1817, many of the business transactions and lawsuits associated with the Forbes Purchase occurred in Cuba. When Forbes died in 1823, his son-in-law,Francisco Dalcourt(husband to Forbes' daughter, Sophia) was appointed executor of Forbes's estate in Cuba. Money from the sale of the Forbes Purchase became tied up in a series of lawsuits filed in New Orleans and Matanzas by those claiming to be owed money by the Forbes's estate. Litigation over the property granted to John Forbes by the Indians at Chiskatalofa in 1804 remained in the courts until 1923, a century after Forbes had died, when the Florida Supreme Court ruled that submerged land in Apalachicola Bay granted by the Forbes Purchase was owned by the State of Florida. After being appointed Receiver of Pubic Monies in the General Land Office in 1825, Richard Keith Call sailed to Havana to examine the original Forbes Purchase documents . From then on, Call argued to overturn the Forbes's Purchase. According Coker and Watson: At Call's urging, the U.S. Supreme Court delayed hearing the case until 1835. In the interim, the government sent Jeremy Robinson to Havana to obtain documents to support the government's arguments. Fully briefed by Call[my note: in Marianna], Robinson spent two years in Havana locating and identifying documents, but he died in 1834 before any of these papers were sent to Washington. Nicholas Philip Trist succeeded Robinson and uncovered forty-five documents in Havana, which the Supreme Court refused to admit as evidence. This was Justice Marshall's last case and he upheld as perfectly legal the Forbes Purchase land grant. The only people who have tried to help me with this are the members of the Innerarity Family forum at MyFamily.com. They are interested because their ancestor, James Innerarity from Mobile negotiated this cession of Indian land at Chiskatalofa in 1804. In order to close the deal, Mr. Innerarity had to promise to build a John Forbes & Company store at Prospect Bluff on the Apalachicola River. Nichols chose to build his "Negro Fort" near there in 1814 and Andrew Jackson built his Fort Gadsden on top of the ruins of this fort during the First Seminole War. I found an article in the Panama City News Herald about Ft. Gadsden which quoted Mr. John G. Hentz as saying that the land where Ft. Gadsden stood was the most important historic spot in Florida. I agree with Mr. Hentz and I had a very long phone call with him about this subject . Please feel free to forward this email to anyone and please help us to commemorate this important anniversary in May. After all, John Forbes also had a Spanish land grant giving him title to the entire coast from Apalachicola to East Pass at present-day Destin (not quite that far- East Pass in the 1800's was where the Holiday Inn of Destin now stands, east of the city of Destin). This land grant was annulled by U.S. courts because the date of the transaction had been forged in order to qualify under the terms of the Adams-Onis Treaty that gave Florida to the U.S. All this land therefore went directly into public domain after the Treaty of Moultrie Creek in 1823 extinguished Indian title.



Portrait of Ben Perryman by Catlin
http://members.tripod.com/perryman_2/alabama.htm

THE TRANSIT USED BY ELLICOTT AT THE CHATTAHOOCHEE IN AUGUST OF 1799
http://americanhistory2.si.edu/surveying/enlarge.cfm?recordnumber=758993

DID YOU KNOW?
http://www.cccalumni.org/

The CCC restored 3,980 historical structures, and developed over 800 state parks. There were over 4,500 CCC camps and in every state including Hawaii, Alaska, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands.
Through the efforts of the CCC soil erosion was ultimately arrested on over 20 million acres. They stocked over one billion fish and spent 4,827,426 man days surveying and mapping millions of acres and hundreds on lakes. They built 46,854 bridges and 4,622 fish rearing ponds. The CCC installed approximately 5,000 miles of water supply.
They improved 3,462 beaches, transplanted 45 million trees and shrubs for landscaping and planted over 3 billion trees where forests were logged and burnt off.
They spent 2,094.71 3 man days razing undesirable structures and built 63,256 buildings plus 8,045 wells and pump houses.
The CCC spent 6,000,258 man days in the operation of tree nurseries, they built 7,622 impounding and large diversion dams.
They erected 405,037 signs, markers and monuments. They collected 1 3,632,41 5 pounds of hardwood tree seeds and 875,970 bushels of cones.
They developed 6,966 miles of wildlife steams and built 28,087 miles of foot and horse trails,and 8,304 foot and horse bridges.
They built 32,1 49 wildlife shelters, 1,865 drinking fountains and 204 lodges and museums. They also built 3,11 6 lookout towers.
The CCC built 27,191 miles of fences and 38,550 vehicle bridges.
The CCC spent 202,739 man days fighting coal fires which had been burning since earliest history.
Hundreds of thousands of CCC "boys" learned their trade in the CCC.



CLICK HERE AND EXPLORE A LARGE VERSION OF THE FORBES PURCHASE MAP BY CLICKING ON THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER TO EXPAND TO REGULAR SIZEhttp://www.libs.uga.edu/darchive/hargrett/maps/1821f6.jpg